tillman brown
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« on: December 28, 2008, 08:08:58 PM » |
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By the way, My name is Tillman Brown. I'm a new guy from Lake Norman,, North Carolina. I've read many of the posts here and they are quite informative. Glad to be here!  Back to the question. I've taken much heat by calling these out. What are your thoughts? Thanks |
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Brian OKeefe
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2008, 08:52:59 PM » |
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I call them out. In my mind I consider it a safety hazard especially with children present.
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2008, 09:55:38 PM » |
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Welcome to the boards Tillman. I would keep taking the heat. It is a clear safety issue.  |
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Dominic Maricic
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2008, 02:49:53 AM » |
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I agree. Manufacturer states they should be installed anyways so at the very least you would say not installed to manufacturer specs.
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Jay Markanich
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2008, 10:14:02 AM » |
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Welcome Tillman! It depends on the year of manufacture and installment. And, frankly, I don't know when the stops became necessary, viable, utilized, recommended, important, looked for or even cute. But, they are always a good idea...
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Gerry Pallotta
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2008, 02:46:02 PM » |
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Look at it this way. Pots of boiling water and fry pans of hot oil on stove top, kid opens oven door and stands on it and stove tips over. You can imagine the rest. I always call it out because I do not want to get that call of look what happened to my kid, because you didn't tell me this was necessary or even available. And if your getting the heat from agents....put a pot of water on and have them stand on the door. ;-)
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David Macy
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2008, 03:56:56 PM » |
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I call them out all the time. It seems like only 1 out of 100 stoves have them on properly.
There was a claim against Sears I believe in regards to anti tip brackets.
How would you feel if you did an inspection and did not call it out. A year later you receive a call that a small child was injured or even killed. I could not live with that on my shoulders.
It cost 5 bucks if they need to purchase.
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2008, 05:41:23 PM » |
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Aaaaaagreeeeed....
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2009, 03:18:25 PM » |
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Yes, call 'em out. I also advise of the Sears suit, to re-enforce that they're needed.
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John Adrian Sopher
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2009, 03:54:12 PM » |
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How do you guys check for these? I have never heard of these until now. I had to look them up online to see what you were talking about. Do you tilt them forward or something?
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2009, 04:02:30 PM » |
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How do you guys check for these? I have never heard of these until now. I had to look them up online to see what you were talking about. Do you tilt them forward or something?
Yes, a bit. Once you find one with them on, you'll know. |
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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2009, 04:09:32 PM » |
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2009, 05:54:12 PM » |
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If you tip it, the device will catch on the range. The best way to check is to look behind and see if the bracket is bolted onto the wall. You can also slide it out about an inch. I would not slide it all the way out as sometimes they fit into a special slot and they can be a dickens getting it back in properly...
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2009, 05:37:20 PM » |
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I open the oven door, put my foot on the door and hand on the back of the unit. It will tip quite easily. It should move about 2" to 3" and stop. I also point out the OEM safety label located on the oven door and or frame. CPSC and the OEM thinks its a safety issue, that's good enough for me.
Don't forget to remove loose contents from the cook top surface and oven interior prior to tilt test....
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2009, 05:45:57 PM » |
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One time I turned on the oven and started talking, casually looking inside. This family used the oven for cookie, cracker and cereal storage! Yikes! Quickly taking out the stuff, I tried to just as casually act like that was normal...
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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2009, 06:33:48 PM » |
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OOPS!!!!
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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2009, 06:55:02 PM » |
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I have checked thereafter before I turn the oven on. Lesson learned...
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Will Handley
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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2009, 10:01:27 PM » |
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Me too! I melted some plastic pans, won't do that again....  |
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Dominic Maricic
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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2009, 01:56:56 AM » |
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Oops! Live and learn I've seen the melted plastic thing. Can definitely make a mess! |
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« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2009, 07:26:01 AM » |
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This is a huge liability! You really better put this in your report. If anyone criticizes you, you can forward this video to them: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/04/06/hunter.stove.tip.over.cnn?iref=videosearch(There is a commercial up front, but watch the whole thing) I would not be alarmist about it, but absolutely you should be checking this. It is a part that only costs a few dollars and is very easy to install. It may seem insignificant, but do you want the liability of a kid gets hurt? |
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