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Jay Markanich
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« on: February 23, 2009, 06:47:27 PM » |
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It's been a long time - are outhouse laws still on the books?
There are Port O' Potties everywhere, albeit temporary. I have seen them in people's yards. Hopefully they are there for a short-term reason. But I don't know about outhouses.
Do sellers try to hide things? Interesting construction, booby traps they set for inspectors, illegal installations? Yes! Yes they do! Well, some do. This is something I ran across well over a decade ago, but thought you might find it, shall we say, unusual!
This was a ranch house, with a full basement. There was an unfinished side, with the furnace, laundry, electrical panel and main plumbing stack. And there was a finished side, with what the listing stated to be a newly installed in-law suite, complete with a full bath. It looked very nice.
We tested the bathroom - everything was fine. Well appointed, good water pressure, properly-installed plumbing, vent fan, very nice. I wondered about the permit - I did not see one and mentioned it to the buyers. Hint: if you don't see a permit sticker, your buyers should always ask to see one. I was bothered though by two things:
1. The main drain stack was in the furnace room. I saw no evidence that a drain from the bathroom had ever been connected. And the bathroom was a good 30 feet away.
2. There was an odor in the basement. It was faint, but present. The house had been shut up for a while, could that have been it?
We continued into the in-law suite. It was fine, although there was no fire escape. Selling it as an "in-law suite" would have been incorrect. It was not, but a fine room nonetheless. However, it did have a somewhat large closet, exactly the width of the bathroom beside. When I opened the closet door the odor was much stronger.
There was no access panel to the shower plumbing. What caused the odor? Kneeling by the wall, my knee felt a slight squishy deflection. Concrete slabs are not squishy. I did something I don't usually do - I gently pulled up the carpet. What I saw was a piece of plexi-glass laying over a hole, almost 3 feet in diameter, that had obviously been carved out with a sledge hammer. I couldn't see under it, so with a screw driver I pried it up.
I was looking into the gaping jaws of the pits of hell! We found the source of the odor! The soil underneath the bathroom had nearly been completely removed, and to a depth of 4 or 5 feet! The plumbing from all three fixtures was depositing its contributions into that pit! The buyer said, "It's an outhouse!" I couldn't help myself - jokes for this thing could go in a dozen different directions. I said, "No. Technically it's an inhouse."
Levity is good to lessen loads, loosen tight situations, and clear the air, so to speak. There were jokes originating inside that were simply bursting to get out. One did, "Gee, is this going to CAN the deal?"
"It's an outlaw, in-law, inhouse outhouse!" Then another:
"They could have provided a bucket of lime and called it a powder room." And another:
Quoting Poor Richard, I said, "Franklin said that fish and guests begin to stink after three days." Yep, another:
"This lends a whole new meaning to the term 'water closet'!" Some people don't know when to quit... the buyers loved it though!
We didn't even look at the upper level! Thus terminateth the inspection. The deal had been CANNED.
A while later, we did another inspection. Just seeing each other in the driveway we all laughed!
My recommendation: When you smell a basement odor, check there first. You may run across a John without a last name...
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John Adrian Sopher
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2009, 09:28:05 AM » |
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Thanks for the "John" joke there buddy! lol
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Jay Markanich
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2009, 09:39:27 AM » |
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Play on words - you have a last name, last I checked!
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John Adrian Sopher
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2009, 09:44:51 AM » |
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Yeah, I love to tease people when they use the word John for restroom. I get it every time someone watches a Rocky movie! Yo, Adrian.... (never gets old  )
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Jay Markanich
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2009, 10:57:15 AM » |
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At your house, you could use Juan... just a thought.
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John Adrian Sopher
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2009, 11:40:04 AM » |
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LOL
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Marcel R. Cyr
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2009, 02:59:47 PM » |
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Well, that is surely not something we see to often nowdays. So here are the Specs if you want to build one. 
§ 73.63. Standards for privies. (a) Location.
(1) The privy shall be located so as to minimize any danger of contamination of water supplies. Where possible, the privy shall be downgrade and at least 50 feet from any source of water supply.
(2) The structure shall be accessible to the user, and at least 50 feet away from any building served.
(3) Consideration shall be given to the direction of prevailing winds to reduce odor nuisances.
(b) Construction.
(1) The superstructure shall be constructed of substantial materials.
(2) The vault shall be large enough to provide for several years’ use and be constructed to meet the specifications of § 73.31(b) (relating to standards for septic tanks).
(3) The vault shall be equipped with a roof-ventilating stack that is screened to prevent entrance of flies.
(4) An exterior cleanout shall be provided for the vault.
(5) The superstructure shall be flytight, well ventilated and fastened solidly to the vault.
(6) The door shall be self-closing and provided with weatherstripping to make it insect proof.
(7) The seat and cover shall be constructed of smooth and easily cleanable material, and the cover shall be self-closing.
( An earth mound shall be placed around the privy, or a surface water diversion shall be constructed to keep surface water from flooding the vault.
Hope this helps all you computer gurus out there. 
See, I been around. ha. ha. one of those too!
Marcel 
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John Adrian Sopher
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2009, 03:07:35 PM » |
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I cant believe you even found something like this! lol One Karma point for you!
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Marcel R. Cyr
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2009, 03:15:59 PM » |
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Kind of figured someone would get a kick out of that one. ha. ha. 
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Jay Markanich
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2009, 05:08:41 PM » |
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That's great Marcel! Not one of those applied properly to the inhouse outhouse though. Sounded an awful lot like a Johnnie on the Spot!
The largest Por O' Potties company in this area is "Don's Johns." My legal name is Jon. I thought that if I was to start one of those companies I would call it "Jon's Dons!!"
Want to hear a good one? In 1967 my Boy Scout troop was the first to visit Camp Bowman at Goshen Scout Camp in Virginia. Very first week. I was part of the crew that dug the latrine! Child labor at its best. That hole was about 10' deep, 10' wide and approximately 25' long! It was huge - ladder in, ladder out. They gave us each a medal, which I still have. The uniform no longer fits though...
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Marcel R. Cyr
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2009, 05:21:03 PM » |
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Here is the #1 in the #2 bussiness here in Maine
http://blowbros.com/liquid/ How do you like that name? 
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Jay Markanich
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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2009, 05:29:14 PM » |
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Great name!
They started in a VERY special year...
Good to hear they are "skilled and professional" when it comes to liquid waste. It pays to be great at something! Carnegie said to put all your eggs in one basket and then really, really take care of that basket! Or potty, as the case may be.
So, does Blow Brothers come back for their potty when it is half empty, or half full?
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Dominic Maricic
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2009, 07:42:38 PM » |
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I was sure I'd be able to find ONE rule that they got correct, but Jay's right, they're ALL wrong!
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