Scott W
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Now thats thinkin with your dipstick Jimmy!
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« on: October 04, 2008, 07:21:45 PM » |
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Hey HIPPIES,
Todays inspection was in the mountains and took me all day. A real bummer being around the trees, stream and chipmunks. I found these outlets mounted to the bottom of the Kitchen sink base cabinet facing up. One outlet is for the food waste disposer and the other is for the dishwasher. Whats your opinion about the mounting???
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Dominic Maricic
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2008, 11:02:33 PM » |
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Directly under the drain too? Wow. My opinion is, extremely stupid. Having any electrical in there at all isn't even that smart as any sort of leak could spray sideways as well and cause a fire. In my kitchen the electrical runs through the cabinet to a socket in a dry zone!
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John Adrian Sopher
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2008, 09:13:21 AM » |
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I would consider that to be the same as having an outlet mounted horizontal in a counter top next to a sink. Its a safety hazard, and I would write it up as a life/health safety issue that should be repaired by a qualified professional.
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David Macy
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2008, 03:28:00 PM » |
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Safety Hazard. Improper electrical practice. Location: Under kitchen sink. Recommendation. Have a qualified contractor properly install. Sure wish I could change colors in the Hip report. Common Dom quite goofing around and start updating the program 
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Gregory Scheer
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2008, 07:58:46 PM » |
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And I bet they weren't GFCI protected.
Greg
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Jay Markanich
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2008, 08:15:46 PM » |
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In Virginia, under-sink mountings need to be at least 6" high and secured to the cabinet or wall. At least they separated the dishwasher and disposal!
Also, here cables are not allowed to pass through surfaces, or walls, or cabinets to plug into an outlet somewhere else...
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Dominic Maricic
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2008, 08:28:26 PM » |
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In Virginia, under-sink mountings need to be at least 6" high and secured to the cabinet or wall. At least they separated the dishwasher and disposal!
Also, here cables are not allowed to pass through surfaces, or walls, or cabinets to plug into an outlet somewhere else...
I've seen it a lot here. Why would that not be allowed? They'd rather you run an electrical outlet and have it directly under the sink? |
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Jay Markanich
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2008, 08:47:52 PM » |
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Horizontal receptacle installations have been forbidden by the NEC since 1993 and need to be replaced with boxes on vertical surfaces; 1996 NEC extends this requirement to bathroom counters and cabinets; 1999 NEC to wet bar counters and cabinets; 2002 NEC to all counters.
NEC similarly prohibits extension cords from passing through partitions, ceilings, walls, floors, under carpets, etc.
Also, the cables in Scott's photo should be secured to the plumbing drain within 12" of the appliance, and not squiggled all around as in that picture.
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William R. DeVries
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2008, 11:00:38 PM » |
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The boxes need to be re mounted on the side as to prevent shock from dripping water
DW hose enter from lower cabinet which would indicate posible missing loop to prevent back water flow.
have qualified handyman contractor move and repair as required
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