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« on: September 02, 2009, 12:16:11 PM »

My neighbor asked me to look at his chimney. Has had previous repair, but is getting worse. Look at the pics. I think that the chimney foundation is sinking and causing the chimney to fall away. Also look at the soffit, the gap between the gutter gets smaller at the chimney, it appears that the soffit is holding the chimney up. The crack at the wall/chimney joint go all the way up to the soffit. When you stand back and look at the fascia line you can see a bow. I also noticed that facing the chimney and looking up, the chimney above the roof is offset to the right about 1/2inch. The pic of the back yard shows that the grading from the other house runs towards his house. I think that there is erosion occurring under the pad. Should I tell him to have a chimney sweep check it out? A structural engineer? Or a mason/bricklayer? Anyone know how this would be corrected and maybe cost?

I told him I think it needs to be demo'd and rebuilt. More pics in the next post


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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2009, 12:19:23 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2009, 12:35:49 PM »

Mike

I would tell your neighbor to hire a structural engineer.

Definitely not a sweep.


There are some chimney professionals qualified to provide an estimate on the  proper repairs.

Cost to correct can vary significantly and would advise to get 3 estimates.

Looks like soffit and gutter are keeping the chimney from falling.
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2009, 12:39:50 PM »

Yeah, you have to see it up close, it is holding it up.
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2009, 11:42:28 PM »

I agree with David, structural engineer would be the best bet.
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2009, 06:26:07 AM »

You could have that repaired by what is called pressure grouting. They do this in FL a lot because of the sand. Someone will come in with a macheine and force concrete by pumping it under the slab and jacking it back up. Even if you don't move the chimney it will stabalize it.
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2009, 02:10:23 PM »

Sean, we thought about that, but the pad is on earth. I think that there is erosion under the pad, so the jacking would eventually fail.
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2009, 11:09:52 PM »

Michael, you probably are correct about the erosion, since it looks like the chimney is in the low spot of the grade.
With the planting it is very difficult to determine how much settlement may have occurred.

Good luck

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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2009, 05:11:12 AM »

That's a problem Tim, but an engineer can fix it.  I have seen it repaired two ways, and sometimes both:

1.  The pressure pumping underneath to lift it back up and re-stabilize the foundation.
2.  Wrapping a belt around the chimney and bolting it to or through the roof to the other side of the house.

That chimney is very heavy and in such a small square foot area that if the foundation isn't good it sinks.  I would suggest to your neighbor not to wait.  A really wet winter or spring can compromise it rapidly.

After it is stabilized you can suggest that a sweep look at the interior to make sure the flue has not come apart.  It probably has already though.
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2009, 08:43:45 PM »

He has called a structural engineer to take a look. He is going to call me and let me know the date and time so I can meet the engineer. I think it will be a great educational opportunity.
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2009, 02:23:29 AM »

I had the wrong name on my last post!  It wasn't Tim, but Michael!  Sorry...

Going and hearing what the engineer has to say would be a great opportunity!  I wouldn't miss it if I was  you.
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2009, 10:17:26 AM »

Yeah I would like to hear what the engineer has to say too!!!
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2009, 05:47:35 PM »

My neighbor canceled the engineer. His insurance said they will not cover the chimney. So he is going to call a brick layer to fix it. I recommended he have the engineer anyway, but he doesn't want to spend the money.
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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2009, 04:29:07 PM »

Hmmm isn't that typical....  lol
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2009, 10:24:37 PM »

It is just going to crack again for sure without doing what Jay said. The brick ayer will probably just do a cosmetic job
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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2009, 02:47:21 PM »

The least he could do would be to dig a little to see if there is a footing.  Who knows it may only be a slab on grade.

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