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Jay Markanich
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« on: May 25, 2008, 06:03:02 AM »

I did an inspection yesterday as a follow-up favor for a realtor client.  It seems her listing had an inspection which revealed moisture in the corner of a basement wall.  It is a 30 year old house and the seller is an older, single woman without much money.  She needs to sell the house for financial reasons.  I said I would look at the wall with my IR camera, no charge.  The realtor is a long-time client and has sent me lots of business.  The whole visit took not much time at all.  The buyers were demanding that a "dry basement" company work up a solution to this "huge" problem.

Boy, did they work up a "solution!"  They diagnosed a cracked block foundation.  After suggesting much ditch diggage, French drainage, foundation wall sealage, indoor slab breakage, and new sump pumpage, they offered different prices for different "solutions."  The prices ranged from $6K to +$20K.  You know the drill, kill an ant with a sledge hammer.

My IR camera revealed moisture from a very slight drip from a previously stubbed-out hose connection, no longer visible on the outside and apparently hidden when the house was re-sided.   The foundation wall was not insulated and the drip was going straight to the sill plate.

I do not know if the "dry basement" company used an IR camera to diagnose the problem.  I wonder what they would have done if they discovered the real cause of this moisture.  Maybe they did!  However, theirs was no solution at all and certainly very expensive.

The true problem is easily corrected.  There is no foundation crack.  My analysis was objective - I had no financial gain in providing a diagnosis/solution to this problem.  The seller is happy.  The buyers are happy.  Both agents are happy.  I have picked up a new client and further solidified an old one.  You can give a happy-ending sigh now.  A lot of business capital was purchased with very little effort.

My camera is two years old.  It is a powerful tool - a great arrow in my quiver.  Diversity of product and services offered is one great key to business development.  In 1776 Adam Smith wrote a terrific book, "The Wealth of Nations."* Among the very cool things he said was, to paraphrase, we owe our dinner not to the butcher, the baker and the beer maker's interest in us, but to their business self interest.  Self interest is not selfishness.  Business people's true interest is to put out the best product they can so that their clients will continue to come back and bring more clients with them.  Business self interest translates to making a profit, so the business can grow, produce more, and improve lives.  That, combined with freedom, is the very basis of an unfettered, free-market, capitalist economic system.

You and I are those business people!  Let's take advantage of the great blessings we enjoy and go and do that voodoo we do so well!

*  Another great, more modern book is "How the West Grew Rich," by Nathan Rosenberg.
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2008, 04:23:09 PM »

Hey Jay,

Very convincing reason to buy an IR camera, and excellent marketing of yourself. It's amazing the amount of money people can end up wasting on a problem that didn't even exist in the first place!
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2008, 11:12:20 PM »

Good post, and Job well done
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2008, 09:31:32 AM »

I'm convinced I need a camera.  Help!  And the training.  Help again!  Many moons I spend over Afghanistan in my U-2 knowing how FLIR was helping the warfighter (can't tell you what else I was doing) but I never thought I could be using a camera like this! Grin

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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2008, 09:46:53 AM »

I got my camera two years ago (more expensive than now) after my son in Baghdad was telling me about how they could look into buildings for people and weaponry.  THAT convinced me!  If you are a U-2 guy you know much, much more than the general schmuck public...  like me.

It is, however, a great tool...
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2008, 07:38:39 PM »

Greg, John McKenna is coming to California in the next month or two to do a day seminar on IR training. Check out http://www.infrared-certified.com
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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2008, 11:51:15 PM »

Thanks Dominic!
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2008, 06:23:26 PM »

I got my camera about 8 weeks ago, got some training and practiced A LOT with it. Yesterday I started my first large commercial project specifically for IR investigation. It's an 81,000 sq ft office building, 5 stories with several moisture issues. I am working side by side with a mold remediation company to complete this project. The property management co. wants the entire building investigated. My rates are $125/hr and they are happy with that rate. So am I.  Grin They also manage several other large buildings, so if I play my cards right and give them more than they expect I can be doing strictly commercial IR for quite sometime. Naturally the WOW effect is great, when I demonstrated the first issue they completely were amazed. The building houses several attorney offices and I was even asked by an attorney for a demonstration, people that have never seen the technology are usually floored, even an attorney.  Smiley

This will be a huge learning experience for me since I've never tackled a large project like this. So for those that are thinking of getting a camera, do your research, get training and practice. Then make sure you not only market home buyers and sellers, you need to market to the commercial and industrial businesses as well.

My goal is to merge into the commercial and industrial arena solely. Much more work, charge more and they expect less (in reporting terms).
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2008, 06:27:36 PM »

Hey Brian,

Sounds like a great project!! And hopefully a great future there. How many days will it take you to go through the whole 5 stories?

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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2008, 06:32:02 PM »

It's a rough estimate, but probably about 25 hours. We are getting the new floor plans for the entire building on next Wed. and will then begin the investigation, marking up the floor plans as we go and writing simple reports as well for each area needing remediation or any other attention.

This property management co. just took ownership of the building 3 months ago. They just spent $18,000 on getting new floor plans drawn up!! I never ever would have thought plans would cost anything like that.


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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2008, 07:33:22 PM »

Are they gutting the entire place and redoing all the offices? Blueprints are expensive. I remember just doing a little house remodeling cost close to $1000.
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2008, 08:01:18 PM »

Their main purpose is to remedy the mold issue they have. Some areas will be gutted only due to new tenants coming in. There are several areas of mold because some tenants on the 5th floor (a realty agency), caused some damage as they vacated the building. They moved out over the weekend and left the valve open on the water line to the fridge, the water went from the fifth floor down to the first floor lobby. A big mess.
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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2008, 09:42:44 PM »

YIKES!!
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2008, 05:13:49 AM »

Brian - great job!  The commercial market is a good one.  I talked with an IR guy a week or so ago who did a hospital with brick moisture issues.  Charged $30K and had a 353 page report.  Issues everywhere.  The hospital admin's were shocked!  It is a super tool

If I can get out of jury duty (wish me luck...) I will be in Atlanta for the IR training on July 12, 13.  Looking forward to it!
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2008, 05:26:18 AM »

It's usually pretty easy to get Jury Duty extended. Just tell them you have a previous engagement and you want to extend it.

$30k!! Wow. For at most a weeks work?
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« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2008, 05:30:33 AM »

The jury duty extension/hopeful cancellation is in the works!  I also am unable to be committed to that for two or more weeks - my wife is chronically ill and I cannot be without a phone or that far from the house all day for such a long period of time.  She has needs.

And get your butt to bed...!!  I am on my way out the door - the first one at 7 today.  You should have been in bed four hours ago!  Why I oughta...
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« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2008, 06:10:03 AM »

Sorry to hear about your wife, I hope she feels better soon.

I'm going to bed now, late night.
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« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2008, 04:32:56 AM »

Thanks - she is up around 30 surgeries now and due for another.  We are very used to it, though it is draining to say the least.  You do what you got to do!  So, back to the topic at hand...
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« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2008, 04:57:52 AM »

Yes, back to IR and how cool it is. I think I'll set up a photo gallery so you guys can post your favorite pics.
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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2008, 03:10:59 AM »

I need to jump on the band wagon and get a camera...being new again in the business, I need to make some money to do so!  I received an email today for an inexpensive camera:   Extech i5 by FLIR!   www.Tequipment.net

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