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Jay Markanich
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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2008, 05:00:19 AM »

¡No, no, no señor!
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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2008, 07:19:24 AM »

Happened in my last neighborhood.
Suddenly could not park in front anymore.
Investers buy a house then overcharge rent to the innigrants.
Ruins the neighborhood, with garage fires and drug deals springing up all over the place.
Aren't open borders great?
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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2008, 08:03:19 AM »

Yikes! I'm not seeing that here in Denver yet, but I'm sure its here. How long did it take you to write the report? How many sq. ft.?, what do you charge there. Sounds like your earning your $$$.
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« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2008, 08:25:33 AM »

Yes, Bob, yummie, open borders!  There are sections of little Manassas VA I will not go.  I will get robbed or my truck damaged, and then if I go to defend myself I would be attacked by 15.  I would have no choice but to shoot somebody to protect myself, and, since I don't want to do that, I will not go there.  It is happening neighborhood by neighborhood out here.  The schools are overrun and dangerous and people are moving to get away from them.  Recently, Investor's Business Daily estimated, based on various financial statistics, that there are 50-60 million illegals here right now.   Geez, there are 52 million social security numbers being used illegally right now...  our county just made an arrest at a golf course and bagged 17 illegals.  They were all using the same social...!  If they all get amnesty, expect their relatives - 4, 5, 6 per illegal - and THEN imagine what will happen to the neighborhoods!!

Dave - I am still wiping the tear from my eye...!  I charge $1 per thou$and for an inspection, with a max of $500 (plus radon, thermal, etc).  If I don't cap it I will get pushed out of the upper market.  For foreclosures I am tacking on an extra $50 because of the extra time.  That report took about 1 hour to put together.  My usual report takes 15 - 20 minutes.  I have a lot of commentary pre-written and just highlight it to print at the end.  You have to be real specific on the commentary!  That little house, both first floor and basement together, could not be more than 1200 square feet.  When I said I am seeing "horrific stuff," I mean it!  We theeenk we be earning our money...
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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2008, 08:10:50 PM »

$1 per thousand what?
I just performed a New Construction Inspection here today, about 1500 sq.ft., I spent 4 1/2 hours at the home, and then 2 1/2 hours to create the report and upload it to the web. That's 7 hours so far and I charge $225. Thats aprox. $32 per hour and I'm not done yet time wise phone consulting etc. + fuel etc.     
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« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2008, 08:26:35 PM »

David ,your prices are to low and you need to raise them.
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« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2008, 08:53:32 PM »

He also needs to switch to Home Inspector Pro if it's taking 2.5 hours (cough cough, hehe). There was a nice post by Bob and then Bert here: http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?p=360061#post360061 where Bert talks about HIP cutting his report time in half.

Dave, I think Jay is saying he charges based on the homes selling price, $1 per thousand dollars. Do a $250,000 house would cost $250 for the inspection. Am I correct in that Jay?
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« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2008, 09:00:18 PM »

Bob,
Where are you located? Do you post your pricing?
Look at mine, click here: http://www.denversbesthomeinspector.com
and click on my pricing. Problem is, I check when I can here, and when some inspector posts his pricing, I'm right in there........... but as usual many don't post their pricing. Some jacka$$'$ advertise $200 w/ free radon test, how do you compete with that? (I dont try) I will not match prices if asked. They are what they are.
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« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2008, 09:16:02 PM »

Dave - If the house costs $385,000, I charge $385 for the inspection.  Or, in other words, $1 per thousand in value.  My minimum is $250 and max is $500.  For real expensive houses that maximum is a great price around here.  There are realtors here who specialize in the high-end stuff and they all know me.  Still, despite a good price, you have to render a great inspection - most veteran realtors are real savvy and know when you screw up and it gets around an office pretty quick.  For the amount of time your process takes you, Dave, it might sound like you are not charging enough...  but, your market really determines that price, not you necessarily.  Your clients do not appreciate the amount of time you spend, only the product you come up with in the end.
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« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2008, 09:18:49 PM »

Dave - Postscript - I had another TPR today with no place to vent!
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« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2008, 09:30:54 PM »

Dave , I am not trying to be judgemental , but pricing for you is a problem , because you post your prices and you notice what other guys are charging.

When they ask me what I charge I ask questions and talk about the property being inspected.

You need to have the knowledge that they called you.

What you think about is what you get.

Sometimes I book a client and realize I never told them my fee , so need to call back.

I would never publish my prices as each place is different, and there are factors other than sqare footage to concider.

I always say I am not the cheapest but I am the best.

If you feel you are the best ,you will be, and shouldn't you be compensated as such?

Hope this answers your question in the way you and I hoped.(now raise your prices, as only you have that control.)
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« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2008, 09:45:53 PM »

Yes, your right...........nothing beats a thorough, user friendly report. I almost always get geniune high marks from the client, but I know they have no idea the time that is taken to provide it.

Try this on your next TPR piping situation, cap it! LOL!! Roll Eyes   
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« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2008, 09:51:33 PM »

Bob,
 Very good points, and points well taken!
But the market really is slow right now, (picking up but still slow) so I think I'll wait and see how the summer goes.   
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« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2008, 09:52:50 PM »

Your TPR topic was thought about and discussed, got changed into something else (pricing, illegals, etc.) and then got back to TPR.  Great job...!  So, what's the next topic?
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« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2008, 10:06:01 PM »

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« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2008, 12:40:42 AM »

Got a hot date tonight Bob?
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« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2008, 02:05:38 AM »

Hi Everyone,

Here is a easy solution to the TPRV on a water heater in the basement area. It is also good for water heaters installed in hall closets on slab homes. Research this! I use them all the time on aplications where you can't get a overflow line to the exterior, drain or running the overflow line uphill.

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